Is Jesus (The Most High) God?


This is going to be one of the most important posts so far. Yet those who decided to stick to their beliefs without being willing to examine the Scripture will not be willing to listen. But that’s not my concern anymore, and they will have to answer to God for this.

(In this post I’m going to capitalize only personal pronouns referring to the Most High to avoid any confusion.)

I’m going to prove my stance only by using Scripture, so please read (or listen) to the end so that nobody jumps to wrong conclusions about what I’m going to say in this message. Then please pray to God about this and do your own research as well prayerfully read the Bible for YHWH to reveal you the truth.

I wasn’t willing to share my opinion on trinity though I got asked to do so, because at that time I myself wasn’t sure if it’s true or false. I had my opinion, but human opinions can be misleading if they are not based on Scripture. I believed the trinity to be false, but I was willing to accept it because it’s the mainstream view, thinking that since so many protestants believe it, it might be true.

So I kept praying for God to reveal the truth to me, and now my view is not only based on what I believe to be right, but on the solid Scripture proof as well.

Is trinity biblical?

I not only discovered that the belief of the mainstream Christianity is wrong, but that it’s much more serious than that. It’s to do with your eternal life, and I will prove this from Scripture in this study.

Satan knows that understanding the correct relationship between the Son and the Heavenly Father is crucial, and that’s why the Catholic Church worked so hard to instil this doctrine into the minds of believers to such a degree that people no longer see what’s written in the Word of God because they think the trinity belief to be the absolute truth.

For example, people are so blinded by this belief that they really think that if someone says Jesus is not God he is an Antichrist or is not going to be saved. But where is it written in the Bible? It just isn’t there – it’s just what the mainstream Christianity believes. And those blinded people quote a verse that they say supports this, and it’s this:

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

— 1 John 2:22

Where does it say that those who deny that Jesus is God are antichrists? It’s not there, it says those who deny that Jesus is the anointed one are antichrists. The same is said about the verse which says that those who deny that Jesus has come in flesh is an Antichrist. Again, this verse says nothing about Him being God. But those whose eyes are closed because they do not really want to know the truth will see anything but what’s actually written.

Nowhere does it say in Scripture that those who deny that Jesus is God will not be saved. And it’s not there because this statement is false. If it would be a statement that saves people it would be all over the New Testament, but you cannot find such an assertion anywhere in the Bible – not even once.

What does the biblical term “god” mean

When you see the word “god” in the Bible, know that it’s a title that can stand for many things, such as authority. That’s why Satan is also called “god” in the Bible (“theos” – 2 Corinthians 4:4), and that’s why Sarah called her husband Abraham “lord” (Genesis 18:12). So just because you see the word “god” or “lord” in Scripture, it doesn’t mean it stands for the Most High.

In Psalm 110:1 we find this:

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

The Lord in capitals is the Most High, whilst the Lord with the first capitalized letter is the Master Jesus.

Words such as “god” and “lord” can indicate divinity, but they can also mean authority and kingship. The word “lord” can also mean husband, prophet, governor, father, priest, captain, or can be used to express a general position of superiority.

Many trinitarians use John 1:1 to be the proof that Jesus is the Most High. Actually this verse doesn’t prove trinity in any way because the Holy Spirit is not mentioned there, and also when the Greek text is analyzed we find that our English bibles translated it with a  trinitarian prejudice.

Here’s the literal translation of the verse taken from the CreationScienceProphecy website:

John 1:1 explained

As you can see, there is a difference between God the Word and God the Most High in this translation because there is no definite article before God the Word, and therefore some translators consider it best to translate this verse in this way:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was divine.

And the word “Word” is better translated as “Reason”, but we have no space to discuss this here as the post is long already. So what this verse seems to be saying is that the Word has all the divine qualities that the Father has.

What Jesus says about himself

Let’s analyze what Jesus says about himself.

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

— John 14:28

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But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do.

— John 14:31

So Jesus says in these verses that the Father is greater than him and that Jesus is obedient to him, and therefore they must be two separate persons.

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

— John 17:5

Here Jesus says that he was with God before the world was created and that God has the power to glorify the Son with His own self.

If ye love me, keep my commandments.

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

— John 14:15-16

Here it’s told that Jesus promised to pray to his Father even after his ascension. Because only when he ascended to Heaven the Comforter came. This proves that in Heaven Jesus remains a separate person from God.

What God says about His Son

After Jesus was baptized:

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

— Matthew 3:17

God did not say – “this is my aspect”, or “this is me in human form”, or anything like this. Instead, He said that Jesus was His Son.

Here’s what God told to John the Baptist about Jesus:

And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

— John 1:33-34

So this verse shows that again God made a distinction between Himself and Jesus, and that John the Baptist knew Jesus to be the Son of God from the instructions given to him by the Most High.

How Jesus was brought forth

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

— John 3:16

Here “only begotten” means “one of a kind”, “single of its kind only”. So Jesus is a unique individual and there is no one like Jesus. He indeed is the only begotten, as you will see from the other verses as well.

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

— John 5:26

Christ’s Father gave life to Jesus, so Jesus cannot be the same as his Father. His Father gave him life!

In Revelation 3:14: Jesus was described as the beginning of the creation of God:

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

The entire chapter of Hebrews 1 beautifully explains who Jesus is:

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

(“The worlds” might mean only our earth, because sometimes the plural might be given to denote the upper, middle and lower world – the inhabited heaven, the atmosphere where heavenly objects reside, and the inhabited earth where we are because multiple universes with inhabited worlds is not a Jewish concept – earth is unique and central ).

Apart from this, this verse explains that the father this time has chosen to speak through His own Son and not by the human prophets, so this makes the Father and the Son separate. It’s also told that He has appointed Jesus “heir of all things”, so it was given to him by the Father and was not inherent in him. Jesus was also the Creator, because God made this world by him.

Let’s continue the quote:

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Here it’s told that Jesus is the brightness of Father’s glory, and that he looks like the Father. That everything is upheld by his power, and that it is in his power to cleanse us from our sins, and that at this moment he sits on the right hand of the Most High. Again, there’s no indication of Jesus and God being the same, but this verse shows that they are separate beings as even in Heaven they sit next to each other.

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Here’s it clear that Paul does not consider Jesus God, otherwise he would not have compared him with angels. In this verse Paul affirms that Jesus is a unique being and not an angel – a true Son of God.

This verse is also very important because it actually states that Jesus was born of God. The word “begotten” is the Greek word γεννάω which indeed means to beget, to be born and to bring forth.

So here it’s clear that the Most High begat Jesus, and that’s why Jesus is told to be the true Son of God; whilst angels were created by God, and not born of God.

Continuing the quote:

And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

This verse shows that God himself commanded His angels to worship Jesus – I’m sure that didn’t go well with Satan!

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Here we see that the Most High calls Jesus “god”, but again, keep in mind that the Greek word “theos” have different meanings, and is used to show a high authority; so judges or Satan or idols are also called “gods” because they are considered to hold some power or indeed do hold power.

Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Here it becomes clear that the Most High doesn’t think that Jesus is the same, but that the one with most authority has anointed the one that’s divine but with less authority. It was the Most High that made him higher than Jesus’ fellows (which also means “associates”, “partners”, “partakers”).

And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

Here God tells that Jesus has immortality and is the creator of everything that was created.

But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Finally, these verses again establish the fact that Jesus is higher than angels and that angels are assigned to help those who are heirs of salvation – born again Christians.

There are other clear verses explaining that Jesus is begotten by God and therefore there was a time when he was not, as well as about other qualities of Jesus. You may choose to study John 16:27-28 where Jesus himself says that he proceeded forth from the father and the same is told in John 8:42, and Colossians 1:15-17 where it’s told that Jesus is the firstborn of every creature, meaning that he was born and therefore could not have existed always.

Jesus talks about his beginnings

A clear explanation of how Jesus came into being comes from his own lips in Proverbs 8, starting from verse 22 where we read:

The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

The word for “possessed” is an interesting one, it’s the Hebrew קָנָה which means to buy, to get, to originate or create, to create by extension.

I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

This word “set up” is Hebrew נָסַךְ, and is usually translated as “poured out”, which is really interesting; other meanings of this word is to anoint (a king), to cover, melt, offer, set up.

When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

The Hebrew word for “bring forth” is חוּל and is indeed correctly translated as “brought forth” and it can also mean to be born, and it also means to twist, dance, whirl and so on.

Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

Here we find another KJV addition because of the protestant bias of trinity, because the words “with him” in that last quoted verse are actually not in the original text, and that’s why they are in italics.

And actually the way that “one brought up” is translated is incorrect also, because that’s not what the word אָמוֹן means. The word אָמוֹן is not a verb but a noun, and it means “a skilled workman”, an “architect” and this word is used only once in the entire Bible!

It’s from the root word אָמַן  which means to support, to be firm, to be faithful, to be established and has many more meanings. So the way to translate the last verse I read out is this:

“Then I was by him, as an architect: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;”

Let’s continue the quote:

Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.

Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.

But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

So in these verses Jesus again confirms that he was born from his Father and that he is not the same as the Father. He was the Father’s great architect, and Satan wants to be known by this name as well, obviously being jealous of Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, and him being only a creature!

Jesus’ qualities and who He is:

In John 5:30 and 36 Jesus is told to be an “obedient son”.

In 1 Corinthians 11:3 a clear line of authority is explained:

(…) the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

So the apostles obviously knew that Jesus is not God but that God’s authority is higher.

In 1 Timothy 2:5 we read that “there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”.

In 1 Timothy 2:3 Jesus is called “god” and there is no contradiction between this verse and the one I just quoted, because, as I said before, “god” can simply mean someone that has higher authority.

Demons know who Jesus is:

Let us alone! What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Did You come to destroy us? I know who You are – the Holy One of God!

— Luke 4:34

Demons identified him as a separate individual and not God the Most High. Here’s another Jesus’ encounter with demons:

And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”

— Matthew 8:29

So as we see, so far no verses indicate Jesus being his Father. Now let’s look at what the Bible says about the qualities of the Most High.

The identity of the Most High

In John 4:24 we read that God is Spirit:

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

In John 1:18 we read that no man has seen God at any time:

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

So if no man has seen God at any time, this automatically removes Jesus as the possibility of being the Most High, because people have indeed seen Jesus.

God dwells in thick darkness as we read in 1 Kings 8:12. This is a unique quality of God and this is not told about Jesus. Jesus, in contrast, it called the brightness of the glory of His Father.

Sometimes people were able to see parts of God’s glorious presence but never in its fullness, like Moses or those seers who saw some visions of God on His throne.

It’s impossible to hide from God as we read in Jeremiah 23:23-24; He’s not far from each one of us (Acts 17:27-28).

Jesus said that with man some things are impossible, but with God everything is possible (Matthew 19:26) and in Mark 14:36 it’s again told by Jesus that all things are possible to the Father. Omnipresence of the Most High is proved by verses such as Psalm 139 7-10 and 1 Kings 8:27.

Jesus is the express image of the Most High, so those who saw Jesus have indeed indirectly seen the Father as we read in Hebrews 1:3. In 2 Corinthians 4:4 it’s again told that Jesus is the image of God.

God speaks through his prophets and He spoke through Jesus. The common thing between all of these were that all of them had the Holy Spirit. Jesus started performing miracles when he received the Holy Spirit which is the Spirit sent from the Most High.

There are two reasons why some powers that Jesus has are the same as His father’s. Firstly, in him dwells the full godhead bodily. He is the embodiment of His Father. He is very similar to the Father because he is the only one who has issued forth from the Father, from the same substance unlike other beings which were creations.

Secondly, the reason he has similar powers is that God has granted him the authority over all the creation (Matthew 28:18) till all his enemies are defeated, and then he will hand this authority back to His Father (1 Corinthians 15:24). So this means that the authority that currently Jesus has over all heaven and earth was given by the Father, and is temporal.

It becomes even clearer that the Most High could never become a human being by reading Numbers 23:19 where it’s told that God is not man nor son of man, which is directly in opposition to the one of the tiles and the facts of who Jesus was because he indeed became the son of man. Jesus repeatedly called himself “son of man” as though he knew that this would be required in these times…

Another opposite quality of God to Jesus is that God cannot be tempted (James 1:13-15) yet Jesus was tempted in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1-11) and was tempted also in all points as humans are, as we read in Hebrews 4:14. Therefore Jesus cannot be God as he was tempted, and God cannot be tempted.

The following verses contradict each other because one is deliberately mistranslated. It’s found in 2 Philippians 5-7:

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

So here we see that verses 6 and 7 contradict each other, because firstly, we are given an impression that to be of the same mind as Christ would mean that we should not consider it bad to be equal with someone who is higher than us just because we look like them. But then the very opposite is told, that we should make ourselves of no reputation and be servants.

This contradiction doesn’t exist in the Greek original but was mistranslated due to the protestant trinity bias. In the past I thought that those bibles which have this verse translated in an opposite manner are in the wrong, but the look into the Greek text proves that it’s the KJV that’s actually at fault.

The way that his verse should be translated, is along the lines of that although Jesus came into existence in a visible way whilst still remaining in a relationship with God, he did not use this authority to seize plunder for himself or act in a way that God does – meaning to exalt himself as high as God.

You can check this page for analyzing the Greek manuscript verses of this passage.

So when translated this way, these verses do not contradict each other, because they explain that just how Jesus who proceeded forth from God did not exalt himself above all as though himself being the Most High, but actually made himself a servant of men, so should we be in this world.

Verses proving that Jesus and God could not have been the same person

  1. In 1 John 3:20 we read that God knows everything. But Jesus doesn’t. Jesus told that he would not recognize some people on the of Judgement and will tell them – “I never knew you”. He literally will not know who some of the persons claiming to be Christians are (Matthew 7:23).
  2. Furthermore, Jesus  told that he does not know the time or the hour of the temptation that will come to the whole world (Matthew 24:36). He said that only his Father knows this. So this proves again that Jesus cannot be the Most High.
  3. God is omnipotent, but Jesus cannot do anything by Himself as we read in John 5:30.
  4. God is greater than Jesus as Jesus himself told in Matthew 27:46.
  5. Jesus said that only God is good in Matthew 19:17.

All these verses are in harmony with the others that I quoted, proving that Jesus and God cannot be the same. God did not come into being but Jesus did. They have separate wills. One has limitations and another doesn’t. One was seen by men and another cannot be seen by them.

Old Testament prophecies of Jesus

Old Testament also proves that Jesus was not God, because the Son of God is distinguished from the Most High. Nowhere does it say in the Old Testament that God Himself will incarnate to save mankind, but it’s indeed told that His Son will save mankind. So let’s look at some Jesus’ prophecies in the Old Testament.

In Genesis 3:15 we find that God said:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

So Jesus is identified with a seed of a woman, because Jesus had no earthly father. God did not say “and I will put enmity between me and your seed”. He said I will put enmity between Satan’s seed and woman’s seed.

In Genesis 49:10 we read:

The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Shiloh meaning is uncertain, but it most likely means “rest” or “peace” and is a reference to Jesus Christ. So again, God doesn’t say that He will come and then will gather the people to himself, but that the one that’s called Rest will come to save mankind.

In Numbers 24:17 Jesus is identified with a “star”:

I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.

The most High is never identified with a star, but Jesus is.

In Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18 Jesus is called a “prophet”. First it’s Moses that speaks:

The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

And then God himself speaks in verse 18:

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

So here we see clearly that God will put His own words into the mouth of Jesus. They are not the same beings. God does need to put words into His own mouth.

In 1 Samuel 2:35 Jesus is called the priest of YHWH and His anointed:

And I will raise me up a faithful priest, that shall do according to that which is in mine heart and in my mind: and I will build him a sure house; and he shall walk before mine anointed for ever.

There are definite boundaries of authority assigned to each member of the divine family. Angels have certain tasks, and Jesus has certain tasks, and everything is in order, as God creates order. Why would He pretend that He himself is the High Priest Jesus but then that He’s actually the Most High?

All this is confusion, and God is not the author of confusion. Jesus is Jesus, and God is God, and they have different authorities. God has unlimited authority, and Jesus has great authority that was given to him by God.

God has made him a High Priest to intercede for us, born-again Christians. Why would we want to confuse ourselves thinking that Jesus is a High Priest but actually he’s the same as the One who has made him a High Priest? It just doesn’t make sense and it complicates things, and it’s not in the Bible.

Yet another mistranslation

There is a blatant mistranslation of the Jesus’ prophecy to confirm to the trinitarian view. It’s found in Zechariah 12:10:

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

The translation of the highlighted word is just wrong because nowhere in the Hebrew original is told “me”, and this added pronoun isn’t even indicated in the KJV by italicizing it!

Sometimes the only way to correctly translate Hebrew is by looking at the context, and this is one of those verses. But the context makes it clear that the highlighted part should be translated as “and they shall look upon him whom they have pierced”, because the rest of the verse clearly shows that the object of the verse is the third person and not first, as seen from the pronouns I have colored red in this verse.

Another important point to make is that Zechariah 12:10 is quoted in John 19:37 after the Roman soldier thrust his spear into Christ’s side. And it reads:

And again another scripture saith, ‘They shall look on him whom they pierced.’

For me this mistranslation is an obvious proof that translators are willing to distort the text to fit with their own bias and agendas.

In Proverbs 30:4 it is asked:

What is His name, and what is the name of His Son – if you know?

So we find that Old Testament prophecies clearly indicate that it will be the Son of God coming to save humanity and not the Most High Himself.

Two different wills

From the Bible it’s also clear that God and Jesus had separate wills that were sometimes in opposition to each other. What makes Jesus such a great being and so exalted by God the Father is that he always submitted his will to the will of his Father.

For example, Jesus did not want to die but did so because it was God’s will, as we read in Mark 14:36 which says:

And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

In John 5:30 we read:

I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

And in  John 6:38 we read:

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

Being one with God

Now let’s look at the verses where Jesus claims to be one with God, and what this saying actually means.

IN John 10:30 Jesus says that He and His Father are one.

How can this be reconciled with the fact that Jesus and God had separate wills and were separate beings?

This is explained by Scripture. John 17:11 perfectly explains what Jesus meant by that saying:

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

So we see that Jesus and God are one in their purpose, and that they agree with each other, and Christians would also be considered as being “one” if they would be in agreement with each other. So it’s false to say that just because Jesus said that he is one with his Father they are actually one in a physical sense – as one entity. Because then we would also have to become one giant blob if that verse would mean such a thing.

Jesus also told that we can become one with Him:

For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren (…).

— Hebrews 2:11

So here it’s told that we are also one with Jesus when we receive the Holy Spirit. It doesn’t mean we become Jesus or Jesus becomes us, but that we share the same spirit, though our personalities and wills are different. We also have the same purpose, or should have as Christians.

In John 17:2 we also read that God gave to Jesus the power over all flesh, that he would give eternal life to as many as God has given him, and what follows after is one of the most important verses in the Bible, which is this, and which is the reason why trinity is pushed so hard on humanity:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

So here it’s told that your eternal life depends on your knowledge of the true God and Jesus Christ whom He has sent. Meditate on this, don’t be deceived by Satan into worshipping two gods thinking there is a god that’s equal to the Most High.

Jesus is  the image of God, he has many divine qualities because he proceeded forth from God, and he is our Lord because he saved us, but he is not the same as the Most High. He is a separate divine being, the only unique Son of God.

John 17:20-21 further explains what it means to be one with God or in God:

Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

So here we find that we also can become one with God and Jesus, like Jesus was one with God and God was in Jesus, and Jesus was in God.  And we can all become one, whilst still being individuals.

So the trinity concept is destroyed here, since these and similar verses clearly show that if we keep the commandments of God and are of the mind of Jesus Christ, we indeed become one with this divine family. This concept therefore is not exclusive to the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, but is inclusive of all who obey the will of God.

This concept of two beings becoming one is not limited to only Father and Son relationship or believers becoming one with the divine family, but also it applies to marriage, because we read in Genesis 2:24:

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall become flesh.

They obviously are not the same person – they don’t grow into one being; they remain separate. But because they are united in marriage, they are told to be one. Well, Jesus and God is one because they are united as a family – he proceeded out of his Father, and they are one because Jesus does the will of his Father.

They are in agreement, therefore they are one. So this has nothing to do with one entity merging with another and two beings actually being one entity – that’s the way that people with too much worldly learning and Greek philosophies think, because they read into the text something that’s not there, over-complicating things and losing the significance of what’s actually written. As it’s told in Romans 1:22: “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools (…).” “And “You have hidden these things from the wise and learned and revealed them to infants”. (Matthew 11:25)

That’s what I notice in trinity debates, that trinitarians always use head knowledge and their own reasoning not found in the Bible to explain trinity. They only need to do this because the trinity concept is not there, so they need to think of how it works and come up with different theories. And that is not biblical.

Consequences of the belief in trinity

The only verse that expressively mentions trinity though not confirming three equal divine natures of those entities is found in John 5:7-8 (this verse is called Comma Johanneum). I made a video about it already. It was a late addition to our bibles and many of the bibles today do not include it.

Trinity deprives a person from understanding a real relationship between the Father and the Son.

Scripture contains no reproof for those who do not believe in a “Triune God.” Those who do not believe in God are called “fools” (Psalm 14:1). Those who reject Christ are condemned (John 3:18). But nowhere is there any warning that those who do not believe in trinity are condemned, nor is there any mention of trinity at all.

If trinity was such an important concept it would have been explained many times by apostles, considering it’s missing from the Old Testament and still confuses Jews today. So if apostles were given a new revelation about the nature of God, they would take time to explain it clearly like they did with the process of salvation. But not even once did any of the apostles care to explain this concept, and that’s because it’s not biblical.

Conclusion

Jesus is not God the Father but he is fully divine, because he was not created but proceeded forth from God. This means that he is of the same substance as God, but he cannot be equal to God because he himself says that he proceeded forth from the Father. That means that at one point of time he did not exist, though he has eternal life because he’s of the same substance as his Father.

Jesus is indeed our Lord, because he saved us and it’s not a mistake to acknowledge him as our Master. However, it’s a mistake to say that Jesus and His Father are the same. They are one in the sense that they are united in purpose and are of the same substance, but they are not actually one entity that can split itself and then become one again.

Jesus and God are two separate beings with two separate wills, though they are part of the same family. We can also become part of that divine family and can indeed become one with Christ and God as they are one, because that’s promised in Scripture.

So my research proves that trinity is a false concept that’s not in the Bible, yet it’s known in the pagan world (the unholy trinity of Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz, for example). In Buddhism and Hinduism we find their gods depicted with heads with three faces and in Hinduism one god can be an incarnation of another god.

We should stay away from this doctrine because it’s not only pagan, but it also may prevent us from inheriting eternal life (if we break God’s commandment of not having any other gods before the Most High) and it also hinders us from understanding this divine relationship.

Furthermore, it deprives us of a true relationship with the Father, and an understanding of the awe-inspiring beginnings and workings of our Saviour Yeshua, the unique Son of God.

Finally here are two good videos that clearly explain the falsehood of trinity, (though I’m not sure about the last conclusions of the pastor in the second video).

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Comments

  1. Simona, I am so happy that you reached this conclusion, God truly showed you His light. So happy for you. You are right, God is One, The Father is God, only, and Jesus prayed to Him and obeyed Him.
    Truly happy for you!

    • Thank you, Teodora, and I pray that other Christians would see this truth rather than defending their cherished trinity that’s not in the Bible.

  2. Blair Bodan says:

    Simona,
    I decided I shoud speak quite openly about where you have taken your ministry. The authority that you were given to quote scripture. To test what we have been given, and to speak the true nature of the Word. You can watch your own video and see the Spirit in you. The color of your face brightens and you can see for yourself what I mean. Thank you for our daily bread. Your brother in Christ.
    -Blair

    • Thanks brother Blair, the more I read the Scripture the more I LOVE doing it! People are missing out big time by not reading their Bibles daily. It’s a daily bread for the soul. Literally – it’s food for your soul. Maybe that’s why you see some brightness when I read it.

  3. Blair Bodan says:

    Simona,
    I just wanted to add about the series of letters that I wrote to you. They are very personal but not confidential. You can do what you like with them, rip them up and throw them away or publish them. I’m not here to take away from your ministry. I would question some of the things that I said because it came from a man and not from the hand of God Himself. There is no money in this for me. I hope that makes things more clear, that they weren’t meant to be shrouded in secrecy.

  4. Blair Bodan says:

    Simona,
    It’s a profoundly humbling expeience to try to give your testimony to people sometimes. You can be subject to ridicule and mockery. I doubt I will write you anymore personal letters because it became very awkward telling you these things. Satan mascarades as a wolf in sheeps clothing. The deception is so great. That whole kundalini experience is extremely frightening. You don’t become God, you become a servant of God and not a slave to sin. I think I prefer talking to you more openly now because, for now, that’s all the testimony I have to give. I hope that it will help you in some way. I know you are rather new to being born again, and I have tried to walk the walk for over 20 years. I explained some of the temptation and when you try to share it with someone you become a subject of ridicule. Like I said, you can just throw them away because they weren’t meant for anything but to help someone who helped me. If I never see you here on Earth, I’ll certainly see you in Heaven and it will be awesome.

    • Blair Bodan says:

      We have the same blood, I saw this when I saw you. I saw confirmation of that around me. I don’t need your confirmation but I want it. Yes, I am strong, and you will be strong. His word is the living Word and it will be written on our hearts. Go ahead, publish what I say. I will refute anyone who things that this is a theological debate.

      • Blair Bodan says:

        The catholic church worshiped false idols. They made statues to Mary. Mary was a holy woman, she was a woman of God, she had virtue. But do not worship her but that which is in her, the Holy Spirit. For God came to her and she bore the Christ.

  5. The site https://www.gotquestions.org present a plethora of succinct & well-argued arguments, disputes, counter arguments, historical accounts, favours, varying reasons; all of which occurred “over centuries” (Ecclesiastes 1:9) e.g. The Incarnation, Apollinarianism, Dyothelitism, Hypostatic Union, The Definition of Chalcedon, Nestorian Heresy, Eutychianism (or Monophysitism), Anhypostasia & Enhuypostasia: all conflicting challenges & issues, as to why an “acceptable human rational” concerning to a degree this unfathomable Holy Godhead, and why the “settled” term “Trinity” became the reasonable description; certainly much more than 6,786 words.

    In fact, as I’ve previously mentioned, this Holy One Essence Lovingly United in Three Persons was the mysterious Majesty (Ephesians 3:8-10) quietened from humanity-Jew & Gentile. Until the knowledge of God (through the Gospel (‘good news’) of God, (even during times of the Old Testament), by and through the revelation of God (‘Only God can know God’): ‘graciously come down to humanity’: in this New Testament, in Jesus the Incarnate Word (John 14:6-7, 9) the Revelation of God (Luke 10:21-22; cf. Matthew 11:25-30).

    I’ll leave you with these pondering thoughts, which “all” the heavenly principalities and powers know full well about…

    Why would the apostle Luke recall this “testimony” & “proclamation” conveyed by Paul the apostle concerning the elders’ care for the Body of Christ, the Church: purchased by the Holy & Innocent Blood of God, the Son?

    (Acts 20:28) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    Also, what “really” happens, and what is the “explanation” during the Sacrament (introduced by God, the Son) concerning Baptism by immersion?

    (Matthew 28:19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

    A brother in Christ.
    E…

    • Later, I’ll respond to some of the challenges & issues you’ve brought up, as I’ve only just broken them down into sixteen paragraphs. And I believe each paragraph should provide a fair, reasonable and succinct response from my particular Trinitarian Christian perspective…

      No worries, articles with viewpoints different from my own is not a shock to my constitutional make-up…

  6. Cristina says:

    Simona, i think you did a fantastic job peoving youe point that Jesus is not God incarnated but his Son, he is of God but also divine.

    What I fail to realize is – why is this importtant for me to know as a Christian? How does that affect me?

    And ok, I get from you arguments that the Trinity is not God (Yahwe) in 3 different manifestations, but that it is in fact a divine family, a reunion of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. There is little in your article about the Holy Spirit, might I ask what it is? And also, where is the female aspect in the divine family? Please post more on this topic, as I am confused. Our priests (which are Orhodox) because I live in Romania” always bless dduring sermons in the name of the trinity, so i think that it cannot be a false concept.

    Thank you for your work, it is a food of thought for me in these times when everyone is tackling spirituality and forgetting religion altogether.

    All the best,
    Cristina

    • Orthodox church is similar to Catholic and they have images in it, I would run far away from it. Thrinity is false because God is not one in three; Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Jesus is the son of God. They are not all equally divine, because the Most High is the one who begat Jesus (John 1:14) (there’s a difference between to create and to beget); and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Most High that was in Jesus and through which Jesus did miracles and that is in every believer and through which we receive communication from our Father. There is no female aspect in any of this – it’s a Roman Catholic creation.

      • Cristina says:

        Thank you Simona. In my mind I always pictured the trinity exacly as you said : there is God on top, then there is his Son and the Holy Spirit forming like a triangle. I never thought that they form one. Neither do our priests.

        So I don’t understand why the trinity is false? It’s false that people consider Trinity as being God, but it’s not false that the 3 different things can be reunited under one name.

        When I do something, I ponder whether my action is in accordance to God, not in accordance to the Trinity. Nobody preaches to listen to the Trinity instead of God, or so I hope. But I think priests preach that accepting Trinity means accepting that Jesus is the son of God and that the Holy Spirit is the means theough which God does his work. So accepring Trinity means recognizing Jesus as being divine and the Holy Ghost as being…well…also divine.

        Where did you encounter different views on Trinity, I am curious why this topic was important to you.

        • Cristina, yes, I agree with your understanding. But I disagree with those who say that God is three in one, or that there are three gods that are completely equal in nature.

          • Hi Simona this post made me remember the essay I wrote for an exam in a Christian Living class (I went to a Catholic school) when I was in junior high. We were asked to write about the trinity: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. I wrote there (I was 14) that God the Father is definitely Most High because He is the Father, second is Jesus because he is God’s son and then last is the Holy Spirit. I tried to explain this by using our earthly relationships as my point of reference: fathers are higher than their sons because they are the father. It’s a natural hierarchy. That essay answer struck me most and I certainly will always remember it because when the paper was returned to me, I think I got zero point. The teacher wrote that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same; which puzzled me but I didn’t think I would get any further explanation from the teacher so I didn’t ask her and at 14 I wasn’t the type to talk to teachers. Thank you for this post.

          • Thanks for sharing, Sara:)

        • Blair Bodan says:

          Because she is revealing the true Godhead to you. It is that of what she speaks. Let your mind listen. Contemplate. Have reason. Because with reason you will realize that this is true. And if you find the Truth you will find God. I am praying for you because I feel if you do this, you will see what I am saying. It is a rather simple concept. Something that has deviated since Christ was born and crucified.

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